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Lori Gottlieb

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone: A Therapist, Her Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed

Nonfiction | Autobiography / Memoir | Adult | Published in 2019

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Part 2, Chapters 18-24Chapter Summaries & Analyses

Chapter 18 Summary: “Fridays at Four”

Every Friday at four Lori meets with four other colleagues to discuss issues in their respective practices, as well as “ourselves in relation to our patients” (236). This time she shares her thoughts about Becca, a 30-year-old patient who never opens up, yet always feels rejected and ignored. As a person, she has no curiosity about herself, which makes her a difficult patient. Lori is aware that patients replicate their relations from the outside world with the therapist, but it is frustrating that she cannot reach her, and feels her countertransference (therapist’s biased feelings and opinions) is getting in the way. Her colleagues advise her to end therapy with her, which she reluctantly agrees to do.

Therapy is most effective when patients are getting better from the initial crisis and become “more present, more able to engage in the work” (247), even though many people stop going to therapy once they feel superficially better. Lori shares her feelings of boredom and frustration about Becca with Wendell, who indicates he feels similarly towards Lori, because “he can’t quite reach me because I’m not allowing him to” (249). 

Chapter 19 Summary: “What We Dream Of”

A twenty-year-old patient, Holly, shares a dream she calls “her ‘poetic-justice dream’” (252), about pretending not to recognize in adulthood the girl who used to ignore her in school because of her looks. This reminds Lori of Jungian and Freudian interpretation of dreams (Jung interpreted them on the subject level—“how they relate to common themes in our collective unconscious”, and Freud on the objective level—“how the content of the dream related to the dreamer in real life (252)).

We dream most frequently of our fears, which come in many shapes, and we often find it hard to admit those fears to ourselves; dreams tend to take the form of a pre-confession. Lori shares her own dream, inspired by Holly’s, in which she meets Boyfriend in a mall, buying a present for his new girlfriend. She is relieved when she hears the girlfriend is 50 years old, until she sees herself in the mirror and realizes she is in her eighties in the dream. Boyfriend asks her if she has completed “the book about your death” (255). 

Chapter 20 Summary: “The First Confession”

Lori reveals that she has been lying about everything being fine before the breakup. She has a publishing contract for a book about “how we were trying too hard to make ourselves happy” (265), but she has been procrastinating, “filled with panic, dread, regret, and shame” (259). She relates how she once wrote a popular article about parents ruining their children lives by trying to make them feel happy all the time, and instead of accepting a financially lucrative offer to expand it into a book, she refused and decided to focus on the other project, which she never really started. 

She finds it hard to transform the subtleties of therapy into a useful book on happiness, even though scientists have even come up with a mathematical equation to predict happiness, “which all boils down to: Happiness equals reality minus expectations” (265). She found herself torn between wanting to do something meaningful, and wanting to provide for her family. Her relationship served as a welcome distraction from her crucial dilemma.

Chapter 21 Summary: “Therapy with a Condom On”

John requests from Lori that they have a Skype session, which she is loath to do, but acquiesces after he says it is urgent. He is in the studio and people repeatedly interrupt him while he complains about his wife, Margo; she is seeing a therapist, who is brainwashing her. Lori realizes Margo is coming to terms with John’s emotional unavailability and is trying to communicate this to him. As is often the case in family dynamics, when one member changes, the others are at a loss as to how to keep the status quo they need, “If John’s wife becomes less depressed, how can John keep his role as the sane one in the couple?” (275).

To her dismay, Lori realizes that Margo is seeing Wendell, and she is both jealous and confused about a potential conflict of interest. John wants her to contact Wendell and speak for him, which she refuses, but she wonders if she should tell her therapist about the coincidence. John admits he too misses the way things were with his wife and then abruptly ends the session. Lori tries to get advice from colleagues, but they are equally unsure how best to proceed.  

Chapter 22 Summary: “Jail”

Lori finally confesses to Wendell about her unwritten book. He surprises her by starting to sing about her self-pity that half her life is over, and emphasizes that no one is going to swoop in and save her from herself. He tells her about a cartoon of a man who is behind bars in a prison that has no other walls, yet he still shakes the bars in frustration. Lori imagines herself in the same situation and chooses to leave the false prison within her mind, knowing that it will require much work to do it in real life, “imprisoned by our thoughts, behaviors, marriages, jobs, fears, or past” (302). Wendell asks her if she is ready to talk about her “fight with death” (305), which reminds Lori of her dream, and disturbs something deep inside of her. His question is timely.

Chapter 23 Summary: “Trader Joe’s”

On a Saturday morning, Lori is with her son at Trader Joe’s buying breakfast when she notices her patient Julie is working the cash register. Since her illness, Julie has been enjoying the freedom of making choices regardless of potential consequences. One of her wishes was to take a break from her academic career and work at Trader Joe’s, which both Lori and Julie’s husband Matt found too radical. Lori now wonders if her reaction was envy at Julie’s new strength to follow her wishes: “Therapists tell their patients: Follow your envy—it shows you what you want” (312). As she observes how well Julie is doing, Lori is unsure whether she should make her presence known, but her son takes the decision out of her hands. After they leave the shop, Lori notices Julie has written on her credit card receipt that she is pregnant.

Chapter 24 Summary: “Hello, Family”

Lori presents the case of her 69-year-old patient, Rita, who is depressed after several failures, in almost every aspect of her life. She has given herself a year to find meaning in her life, or she will commit suicide. Rita has had three failed marriages, and four troubled children with whom she is not in touch. She feels lonely and craves human touch. Even though she has tried dating apps, the old male body disgusts her. Her life is empty of meaning and she lack vitality—her movements show psychomotor retardation—“slowing down of coordinated efforts between the brain and the body” (327). When Lori asks her to relate her day, Rita reveals she never does much and she has no contact with other people. Lori is not sure she can help Rita, and does not know how to proceed: Whether she should bring an older person into the depths of psychotherapy.

Rita’s first husband was an alcoholic abuser, her second a widower who still loved his dead wife, and third a cheater. Now she has been alone for over a decade. She tells Lori of a family living next door, with a stay-at-home father and a working mom who all care deeply for each other. Rita spies on them and seethes with anger that she never got to have the same experience. Lori reflects that she has been lucky with two most significant choices in her own life: Having a baby, and becoming a therapist.

Part 2, Chapters 18-24 Analysis

In Chapter 18, Gottlieb offers us another significant insight into the therapy process: Once a patient has presented a problem and started to ease into the sessions, they will experience moments of relief. There is a risk, however, that they might construe this as a sign that they have solved their problems, which is when they often rashly decide they no longer need therapy. Lori says, “[Y]our condition can worsen before it improves” (98), meaning therapy makes us look deeper into the heart of our issues, which is a difficult process that takes us down narrow and dark paths to the truth of our feelings, and this journey is painful and fraught with obstacles. The point of therapy is not to offer quick solutions and easy fixes, but to remove the underlying problems that keep us from functioning properly.

In Chapter 19 Lori introduces Holly, a patient with body image issues and a weight problem, who is communicative about her feelings. Using the example of her dream in which the role of her former tormentor reverses so that Holly is now in control, Gottlieb instructs the reader on the two dominant schools of psychoanalytic dream interpretation: Freudian and Jungian. Freud believed that through analyzing dreams a therapist could better understand the patient’s unconscious, where desires rule and dreams serve as representations of wish fulfillment. The manifest part of the dream is what we remember upon waking, and the latent content is what we discover through therapy, and this part informs us about the true message the dream sends us. Swiss psychoanalyst Carl Jung, on the other hand, believed that our dreams express mythic narratives: the archetypal common denominators from our collective subconscious, translated into imaginative stories that revolve around ancient myth structures. In this way, dreams perform the role of uniting our conscious and unconscious selves, and a therapist does not need to interpret them deeply for them to be useful.

In Chapter 24 Lori introduces Rita, whose depressed state is compromising her will to live. Through Rita’s character, the author examines the behavioral patterns of the elderly, especially those with traumatic pasts. Lori’s struggle to find a suitable way to approach her and her set ways exemplifies the individual nature of therapeutic approach, as each patient represents a different challenge. Rita’s complex past, the abusive nature of her first marriage, and her avoidance of help for her children during that period all contribute to her trust and confidence issues, which incidentally echo Lori’s preoccupations after Boyfriend’s betrayal and her incipient fear of getting older. By working with Rita and Julie, Lori is beginning to work towards accepting her own mortality.

Structurally, the book always brings us back to how Lori’s patients reflect her states and how they help her in understanding facets of her own personality. Thus, in Chapters 21 and 23, we witness how John’s insistence on using what Lori considers unsuitable methods like conducting a session over Skype, and Julie’s controversial decision to turn her back on her academic achievements and work at Trader Joe’s, teach Lori how to adapt her therapeutic process. Their choices show us how Lori learns to adapt herself to changing scenarios that she cannot control. She is aware that John uses various methods to distance himself from her and his therapy, but she accepts his ploys and finds ways to use them for his benefit. Similarly, Julie’s decision disturbs her, and yet seeing her at work helps Lori realize that simplification is sometimes a useful tool in giving oneself room to breathe. Both situations make her aware of her own avoidance tactics and opportunities she might use in her own therapy.

In that sense, it is structurally logical when Lori feels ready to confess to Wendell her procrastination with writing the book on happiness. We have seen her tackle issues of what a patient’s refusal to open up means, so now she applies the solution to herself and addresses the issue that she has been avoiding since the beginning of her sessions. Confronting herself does not come any easier to Lori than to her patients, which is another reminder that therapists are ordinary human beings. Therefore, the introduction of a significant symbol of the jail with open sides (Chapter 22) plays such an important role in the book, and the idea of self-imposed psychic imprisonment becomes one of its leitmotifs. Each of the characters in the book has found themselves within such prisons of their own making. The task of the therapist as well as ourselves as individuals is to bring forth the key realization that the bars of the jail are less significant than the open sides that allow us to leave when we are ready. 

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